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Keep this Forum to the point.

Wow "@david " this is bit of poor representation of the events that killed Martyn and Gaylene’s son. This accident was tragic and should never of happened. I and everyone else I know (including Mr Chris Wise – whom I have spoken too about this), feels devastated for the Smiths. Why did you bring this up in this discussion?? Don’t forget the pilot that killed there son had a family too, and the events that happened that day is not their fault, when you represent untruths it reflects on them.

>the pilot had lost his medical<; He had lost his Class 1. Medical, he still retained a Class 2. Medical.

>and was disqualified from flying<; No he was not.

>let alone the low level aerobatics that he was carrying<; this was foolish as it’s not legal to take none essential crew and passengers whilst doing low level aerobatics.

>he drove his aircraft into the ground<, this is outrages, you make it sound like it was intentional, the manoeuvrer he did beggars believe, however in an attempts to impress, we have all done things that were stupid and got away with it, in this case he did not with tragic consequences.

It is this tragic event that has set the Smiths on a crusade, I can totally understand this, and as you put it > β€œi doubt that anyone could imagine the horrific images that must go through their minds”

Do not loose site that this pilot was well known to the Smiths and this was not the first flight they had shared on that day or other days. How they cope on a day to day bases is a credit to them, however does not excuse their crusade.

I think this forum should be kept to the opinions about the Aldinga Airfield, in Australia we all have a right to voice our opinions, one can only voice their own experiances and I know of several people whom have voiced their opinions on this forum, both positive and negative as is our pilots right, that the point of the forum.

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Calga Airport

why is it listed ?? There is nothing there ??

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re: Watching the discussion

Oh by the way, I did respect the views on this site and did in my posting some time back ask that any issues relating to any problems etc in regard to the tenant of Aldinga Aviation, Adelaide Biplanes, should address these problems with our new progressive board.

I did ask that we should all put this to rest as the subject had been flogged to death. I wonder what inspired an individual with such a obvious poisoned twisted mind to incorrect assume and post such a mentally unbalanced tirade? Whether it be against me or not.

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re: Watching the discussion

Well well well. So some spineless creature who does not have the testicular fortitude is maybe pointing a finger at me, Chris Wise.

I did identify myself on this site and had my say, but it seems like we now have someone who incorrectly assumes (Never assume as it makes a ASS out U and ME )'

Now put yourself in Gaylene's shoes who may have instigated this post.

Everyone, And I mean everyone gave Martyn and Gaylene and Bonnie all the support in the world. My wife and I felt for them in a big way.

We lost our son last year, but we are not taking this out on anybody else.

And here lies the nucleus of the problem.

Gaylene has engaged in a vendetta againts aviators in Australia who she thinks have done wrong. She has attempted to dob aviators in at events other than at Aldinga.

THe classic was when she, with her husband present, ran to CASA because she had heard stories about the antics of some pilots at a gathering at Mick and Di's Skypark at Port Lincoln.

When CASA advised her that it was a private show and that they could not attend these events unless invited, she asked why they could not hide in the tress and wach what was going on.

So, this had nothing to do with them. But this is only one inc incident of dobbing.

This is not the Australian way of doing things, one talks to the alleged offender first IF IT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOU.

Then Mr Smith tells me that the Australians have a terrible flying culture and when asked about it, He says that he is going to change it, This from a POM who had only recently arrived in Australia.

Look, at the end of the day, we all do sympathize with the Smiths, but they cannot take what happened to them out on the whole industry.

This is why, not just me, but many others in the flying fraternity have had enough of their dobbing arrogant attitude.

Read the posts, quite obviously the author of the last post has a fixation that I am the author of then. WRONG

One must remember that the Smiths thru the first stones and naturally some people will throw a stone back and they should learn to take the return flack that they so happily dish out.

I did post an article asking that all of this be put to rest, but if this snake in the grass wishes to continue with the trash, then please, identify yourself if you have the courage and BRING IT ON.

So if you are referring to me and my accurate opinions and assumptions of the Smiths which is quite obviously shared by many others, then instead of making accusations without identifying yourself and stand up and be accounted for, or are you also going to be another anonymous gutless dobber.

Now, If you are indeed referring to me, I am not bigoted and nor do I have a toxic mind. Only towards those who see fit to unjustifiably harm me or my mates, then it becomes more that toxic, it becomes very angry.

So what now Ms anonymous.

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re: Wickham airport is closed

Reply to @GlasairSportsman: Thank you. I've updated the airport status. It's always sad when an airport closes.

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Good day trip from Perth

Great for a day trip from Perth. Walk from the strip to the shops for lunch, then walk to Wave Rock. We loved flying there and back.

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Refuel

Landed many times here to refuel

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Attended the opening

Attended the opening of this airfield in a Dragon Rapide, DH89a

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Great location

Fly here and have lunch.

Did this in a tiger moth.

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Learnt to fly here

Started my flying at Shepparton as a 16 yr old.

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SAAA fly in

Flew from Perth Western Australia to Cowra for the SAAA annual fly in, 2010.

Camped on the field. Great location.

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Refuel and stay

Good place for a stop over to refuel and recharge.

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Refuel here

Good refueling at YPAG. Stretch and have your own sandwich. No food available on the field.

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Overnight stay

Reefueled eqch way and stayed overnight when heading back west. Good stop off before taking the trip west back across the Nullabor.

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Refueled here

Stopped to refuel due to Forrest being out of fuel. Take care if there has been recent rain. The strip as some low spots. You will see the wet spots of there are weeds growing over the strip.

I hope they have replaced their refueling ladder. It is a death trap.

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Great facility

Stayed overnight at Forrest. Great for a break. Airport manager was terrific.

Call in advance to confirm fuel is available.

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Last fuel heading east till Forrest

Kal is worth a stop over to see all the mining history.

Refuel here before heading east on the Indian Pacific rail line to Forrest.

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Great place to visit

Exmouth is at the entrance to Cape Range National Park and Ningaloo Reef.

This is an incredible place to visit. Snorkel and swim with whale sharks and manta rays when in season.

Snorkel Turquoise Bay is a must do.

Swimming with a whale shark or manta ray you will remember all your life.

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Stopped for a leg stretch and refuel

Ring in advance to ensure refueling is available at the time you fly through, particularly weekends.

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Great trip to see the dolphins

Great place to visit for a few days to see the dolphins at Monkey Mia.

We stayed at the resort.

www.heritageresortsharkbay.com.au

Shark Bay Air Charter were very helpful.

www.sharkbayair.com.au

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Stopped for a leg stretch and a bite to eat

Stopped for a short leg stretch and a bite to eat

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Strong winds

Be prepared for the strong winds on landing. Use the best available runway.

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Flight coastal toward Point Ann

Don't miss the coastal flight to Point Ann. Look out carefully for Whales from Point Ann to Albany. Typically August to November

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Great for an overnight stay

Bremer Bay is great for an overnight or more stay.

Bremer Bay Resort was incredibly helpful with airport pick up and drop off.

www.bremerbayresort.com.au

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Refuel here before going whale watching

The coast between Albany and Point Ann to the east has an incredible number of whales close to shore in August through to November. Stay at Albany or Bremmer Bay.

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An amazing place to fly into

The opportunity to land here is incredibly rare, Perth's original airstrip.

The last time was the SAAA Langley Park Fly In, October 2011.

My landing is captured on this link on YouTube.

http://youtu.be/UvR39C6rFZs

Or search using Langley Park Fly In SAAA

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Great location

This is a great airstrip servicing Busselton and the Margaret River region.

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Weekend trip

Margaret River is a great place to fly to and stay a couple of nights. Terrific area to visit.

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Great for lunch at the winery

This is a great day visit from Perth. Ensure you contact the winery first though. You need to sign an indemnity form.

http://leeuwinestate.com.au/visit/charter-flights.html

Note the location shown on the map is about 1500 m too far west.

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Dirt strip

Great little dirt strip to practice landings close to Perth.

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Wickham airport is closed

Note that Wickham airport is now permanently closed. The expansion of Rio Tinto's Cape Lambert Port has resulted in its closure.

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great airport

flew my Jabby 230 home from there in Aug 2012

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Strip rough as guts August 2012

Rabbit holes everywhere messing up what is a great airport and nice place to visit

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Mid Murray Flying Club

A great friendly Club, very welcoming and lots of characters.

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Belmont airport

Hi my name is Cameron Schmidt, a friend of Liam Davis, i'm in year 11 at Warners Bay High School and i am doing a Senior Geography Project on the Belmont Airport. i was wondering if you have any information on this particular subject.

You can contact me by email at pjckusa@hotmail.com

Thank you.

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What is the status of this airport?

Hi!

What is the status of collector airport?

Would be great to use this to store an aircraft..

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Unknown airport 25km NW of Alice

There is an unmarked airport 25km NW of Alice Springs, about 16km west of Bonds Airport, on the Tanami Rd (5), 23 31 22.20S, 133 40 45E. Any idea what it is? Thanks.

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Ashford Airport

Hi, Ashford Airport is the Home Base for New England Volunteer Air Transport. The CTAF is 126.7

Runways 08/26 1000 metres gravel elevation 1560 ft. NEVAT maintains a hangar at Ashford Airport and can be contacted on (02) 67 254448 or mobile 0428254448 nearest refuelling is at Inverell Airport.

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CTAF

The CTAF is 128.0

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Mereenie is operated by Santos Ltd

Mereenie is an Oil and Gas facility run by Santos Ltd in Adelaide.

You will not get permission to land there unless it is related to the operation.

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Location

I would like to find out more details regarding the strip and how to find it etc

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height above sea level

height 300ft

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re: WHAT IS HERE

Looks like a mining operation to me.

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WHAT IS HERE

You need a permit to use the meneenie loop road ... and you can't go to this location ... if you search for it as an airport you get "invalid" - Is this a U.S. Military base? ... It looks like Area 51 and Groom Lake... alot of roads ending in underground bunker entrances?

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low flying aricraft

I am contacting the ombudsman regarding the small aircraft which is flying way too low and too often above my house. You guys know it is illegal so stop now before you get fined and told to stop.

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re:Chris Wise

Well, this is going to be interesting, so sit back, take a breath and let's see where this ends up.

It is now after 17.00 hrs and I write this after deliberation re a phone call that I received at about lunch time about this site with much glee on the other end of the phone.

So, my name is Chris Wise and I operate out of Aldinga.

I have posted one article on this site where I did say that we should leave this all alone and enough said.

Now to the nitty gritties and let's get in the open.

I do not get on with the operators of Adelaide Bi Planes and they do not get on with me. Nor do I particularly wish to get on with them.

It is a well recognized fact within the aviation scene around South Australia, and indeed interstate by some, that they have dobbed others in to CASA without any prior "sorting it out" with what they perceive to be wrong with the alleged offender.

And yes, they did attempt to dob the delightful people, Mick and Di Hart from Port Lincoln and as am led to believe with great authority, told CASA to hide in trees and observe what goes on at the Hart's Sky Park. Not nice. Yes they did dob young Pat Crowther without any sorting it out. i.e Mate please do not come back here and do that sort of flying end of story. No grief for the Crowther family.

Yes they did, as I am reliably informed, dob me in for aerobatics below 3000 feet but saw their behind as they were unaware of the fact that I have a endorsement to 1500 feet.

Yes they did abuse some for what they perceived to be a beat up when a guy did a go around. Yes when Mr Smith came to Australia form England, they did say that our Australian flying culture is crap and that they were going to change it and yes they are, not in the manner that blends in with our delightful culture.

So I have been vocal about this in the past to the extent that the board of Aldinga Aviation had their solicitor write to me about my comments which were in no way directed to the company, but Adelaide Bi Planes.

It is my opinion that in the past some of the directors on the board of Aldinga Aviation may have been protecting them.

And of course, I am led to believe that the list goes on.

However. There has been enough bulldust posted on this site and maybe with a bit of luck Adelaide Bi Planes at Aldinga may have come to realize that the Aviators in Australia do not appreciate people going to CASA rather that sort it out. They may also finally realized that their holier than thou attitude is not wanted.

So I would suggest that if the Mob at Adelaide Biplanes have an issue with someone, then they should go to that person and address the perceived problem and if required and warranted tell the person that they are running a flying school and do not appreciate that behavior as it sets a bad example wha wha wha, They would command far more respect.

Double standards. Yes there are as any honest aviator flying out of Aldinga will tell you. I have not been there for a while so that may have changed, But not according to the post re aerobatics below 3000ft with paying passengers.

Sadly Aldinga HAS got a reputation as a place to avoid. How do I know this. I know locals and people interstate who are of the opinion that the pleasure of participating in fly ins to Aldinga is no longer a pleasure as one never knows if one will be abused or Dobbed in.

So now. Aldinga Aviation have just recently had a change within the board and we as shareholders now believe that we have a board that is there for the shareholders, not just the interest's of a privileged few who could do no wrong.

This board, now comprises of progressive and positive board members who without doubt wish to act in the best interests of the shareholders as a whole and to act for the best interests in the shareholders aerodrome, Aldinga, and to move forward constructively and fairly.

With this in mind, should there be anyone who in the future is not happy with the attitude of the tenants of the airfield, Adelaide Biplanes, then I would request;

(1) All the comments on this site now be done with. Everyone has clearly had their say and there is no more to be said.

(2) If there are any further incidents whereby aviators who operate at Aldinga or who fly in to Aldinga, that may occur between them and Adelaide Biplanes which is not cosha, then please in the 1st instance for all to act as sensible grown ups and solve the problem amongst themselves without anyone running to CASA.

(3) Should there be any occasions where somebody considers that they have been victimized or dobed in or any such like by the tenants, I would urge those people to write to our board who will, I can assure you, take the middle road and adjudicate fairly.

This keeps it all nice and tidy and with a bit of luck we can all move forward in a friendly progressive manner. (Except for Adelaide Biplanes and myself) They leave me and my mates alone, I leave them alone.

I read the article about the anonymity of the internet and decided to show my testicular fortitude and have my say and to me, that's the end of it. Let's move on and see what happens.

The horse has been flogged to death.

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re: Local Pilot

Isn't the internet also just great to be able to expose those who anonymously dob people in to the authorities without any due thought to the hurt and anguish that they cause by such low un Australian attitudes that they extend toward fellow aviators.

Nothing bigoted or small minded about that. Oh and by the way, who is hiding behind anonymity?

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re: Fier beware

That's the Australian way cobber. Give people a fair go awright.

These people were welcomed to Australia, and remember they choose to come here, we did not ask them, and we gave them the biggest fair go that they could wish for.

Then they attack our flying culture, dob fliers in to CASA but have the attitude do as we say, not do as we do.

Two standards cobber. No fair go cobber.

Seems to me where there is smoke there is a fire and there sure as hell is plenty of smoke.

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re: Local Pilot

What a pity the internet allows the small minded, bigoted nasty, whinging people of the world to voice this purile trite and hide behind anonymity.

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