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re: Fier beware
well flyer beware I seem to remember the Australian way is to give people a fair go - not attack them. Oh well, I suppose its ok as long as you know who you are.
Cooee Cobber
re: A Local Pilot
I feel very sorry for you, I have decided to fly there because of the high standard of airmanship and quality of the flying offered by the flying school. Do not try to say I don't know what I am talking about, I have been around aviation since 1966. I would suggest you take a good hard look at yourself and not be too one eyed about what you see. As for the story about Martyn Smith, you should really get the true story and not make it up from bits and pieces, your real name in the comment would add some credibility to an otherwise sad made up story.
Happy to fly there
Mataranka homestead a/port
Landed there about 1995 in C172 Just missed a large kangaroo on short final
re: Best aeroclub around.
I agree ,it is great airport.You can use the grass during the summer.Ring the club during winter months for serviceability.runway 17/35 good for x/wind training.Sadly moorabbin airport is being screwed by the government and MAC,so its refreshing to come to Tyabb...Capt Bob
Vital link
This Airport is vital for Royal Flying Doctor Aircraft
Fly in Fly Out
Has started and will expand with all the new coal mines opening up....
Renovation
The renovation & Extension is nearly finished..looks great!!
A Local Pilot
Hahaha Hey “What The?”, love it – how true, after all just before a commercial flight Martyn Smith collapsed (for the second time) with heart failure, a few weeks later he is back in the air with chest full of electronics (the bionic man) again taking commercial flight, his double standards in flying safety are interesting, where money is involved, its one rule where anyone else is involved its another and I don’t get the dobbing thing???? I reckon they don’t have the guts to say anything to anyone and so just scurry away to CASA (they must have a hot line). I think these people are mental and should take a VIP lawn mowing contract and stay away from aviation.
What the?
>>Wow what an extremely racist comment. About time some of you grew up a bit dont you think?????
I just read all this stuff, where are the 'racist comments', yes there were plenty of typical Oz comments but that how we speak here???? I am confused.
Either way I have met these people and they are just the most wonderful people (flying school/coffee shop) UNTIL THEY BURN YOU and they will (in a whim). I have seen these people demonstrate some of the worst airmanship I have ever seen by professional pilots, ground collisions and near misses on the ground, a complete failure to communicate their intentions on the radio and to respond to any call I have ever made them. This is not about Race its about double standards, poor airmanship and dobbing people in (and plenty of times when they were not present and on un-factual hearsay). Yes there people are wonderful until they burn you that is why people are expressing their objections on this site. Do I avoid flying to YADG? Yes, Do I trust these people? NO, would send anyone I know to learn to fly there? NO
response to articles
Sorry, I noticed that my article came up as flier beware.
That is not me, I was responding to the articles and did not realize that I had to enter a name in the subject box.
re: Flier beware
Wow what an extremely racist comment. About time some of you grew up a bit dont you think?????
My Experience
From my point of view all these comments are correct. I flew in from Cessnock with my wife just under a year ago for 14 days holiday based in McLaren Vale (beautiful wines and country), we also did some local flying including a 2 day trip to Kangaroo Island (must see). Yes there was certainly some chaos in the circuit and I experienced poor / non-existent communications with other aircraft, it is certainly not the safest place I have flown to, but it was manageable with a diligent lookout. The little shop/ flying school had good food; the people were friendly and helpful. However over the period of our stay, we met several local pilots, some based at Aldinga and other’s from the surrounding areas and Kangaroo Island, from which we gained several perspectives and stories. Too many consistent stories from different pilots to just ignore as the odd disgruntled pilot, not everyone had a bad word to say about the flying school operators however about 80% of the pilots we met were of the same general opinion that these people cannot be trusted and have double standards. Several of the pilots I met had been approached or fined by CASA for incidents dobbed in by the flying school operators without every talking to them first (I don’t understand this, in Cessnock if you do something silly or wrong usually one of the instructor or experienced pilots will have a word in your ear and leave it at that, anyway that’s how we roll in NSW). Overall we had great experience in SA however the stories did make me very wary of the flying school operators.
By the way
Just read the comment about cowboy flying.
The only dangerous flying that takes place at Aldinga is by the operators themselves.
Terrible circuit procedures and a RECORDED number of near misses due to their "Can do no wrong attitude"
The lady who cannot fly but who runs the place and berates and looks to persecute those that she perceives to have done something wrong, is of the opinion, in her one eyed view, that they the operators are SSSSOOoooo so safe, but all the others that dare fly in there are nowhere near as safe as they are.
For one who cannot even fly, her attitude and interference with real aviators is woeful and leaves an awful lot to be desired.
Flier beware
If you intend to fly into Aldinga.
Be so at your own risk of;
(1) Bad circuit manners and procedures.
(2) Bad manners and the risk of being abused for something that the operators do not like.
(3) Highest avgas prices. Higher than Goolwa and other aerodromes who pay cartage where Aldinga do not. Rip off prices.
(4) Do something wrong, and you will not be approached to "Sort it out and clear the air" You can expect a call from CASA.
Makes one wonder why they are in the aviation business when the act like self appointed industry regulators and policeman.
Bad attitude toward the Australian aviators and Australian flying culture.
Should go back to the UK where they came from and practice their pedantic crappy outlook on their own countrymen.
Come to Australia and try and tell Australians how it should be done. Huh. we have a proud aviation history.
No rRunway at Cudal
There is no longer a runway at Cudal. The runway is now used for the display of tractors.
The shafting airport
The good blog on this site is quite obviously posted by the operators of Aldinga.
Note the continued reference to coffee, the wonderful safe place to fly.
At Adinga, there are 2 rules, one for them and one for others. Do as they say and not as they do.
Now I am told of a near miss because they are doing left and right circuits without any notification in the ERSA.
Fly there at your own risk.
If one has money to spend at Aldinga, then you are great.
There are many locals who will not go near the joint. Have been abused for no reason, reported for no reason and been rude to for no reason.
How about the people at Aldinga attempting to dob the people in at a Port Lincoln fly in when they were not even there. Told CASA to hide in the tress and spy on these great people at PLC.
Yeah nice people.
re: Positioning and access
Thank you very much for the contribution, Ian. I'm grateful for all the work people are putting in correcting the AU data and keeping it up to date.
Great alternative to Port Augusta or Whyalla
We always use Port Pirie in preference to the above- easy to get fuel and friendly. Second the comment below- the airport manager is a really great guy.
Quality airfield
Aldinga airfield has gone ahead in leaps and bounds for the past 7 years.
As a result of this intelligent development it is hard to beat in this region.
A pleasant cafe and quality flying school with a focus on safe flying in up to date equipment.
Unfortunately the zero tolerance of seat of the pants and ill disciplined "cowboy" flying has encouraged it's share of detractors. I suspect that the individual responsible for all of the childish and puerile comments on this page is one of those sad types who would rather kill someone than admit that he was wrong. It is the disappointing aspect of free speech.
Try Aldinga for yourself.
re: Positioning and access
Reply to @david:
Sorry David. I repositioned the strip as the one shown was on top the range (hills). The strip is dirt for mid sized fixed wing aircraft.
Appologies for the confusion.
regards,
Ian
re: pissed off local
Really sick of the whirring sound of people whinging after they buy houses near airports (with the market prices reflecting that fact) only to start bleating about aircraft noise. Be more observant next time or go jump in the ocean.
NOTE:
Don't confuse Romsey with Riddell/Penfield. This is why you are finding difficulty. There are about a dozen landing areas in close proximity.
Correct: Romsey YRSY
The photo is correct as are some of the comments. I was flying my RV8 for the first time on delivery from Parafield and it is true that the data in my EFIS was off in Port Phillip Bay. I have my RV8 hangared at Romsey. TO orientate yourself be sure to identify the Defence Vehicle Proving grounds. It is north and adjacent. Coordinates are: S37 23 30.00 and E144 44 18.00. Frequency: 126.7 Elev: 1500
pissed off local
Really sick of the whirring sound of the planes flying over head, low flying aircraft, the early wake up on saturdays and sundays. too many bloody planes over Myocum. Stay home guys or fly over the ocean.
Boyup Brook Airport review
Great airport. My only criticisms are that the service was a little slow in the Chairman's Lounge and it took me a while to get through customs.
Tell me more
I fly from Jandakot and flew over this a while back. Is it open to the public for landing, or for a visit by car to view the historic aircraft on the ground?
Refuelling
In January 2012 I experienced the fact refueling service became expensive. We called them for fuel prices which we got. When we arrived they claimed 50AUD opening fee without having told us. No chance to talk to the service man. Better find another airfield for refueling.
Runway Condition
I went & inspected the East-West runway by foot to see if it was suitable to land there on my next visit. The runway is clay/dirt, 1.5 car width, narrow, with a slight undulation along it. There are rocks that protrude from the surface, but nothing that a standard or heavy duty aircraft wheel would not be able to handle. You could only turn around at the runway thresholds.
There are no services out there. An unlocked gate to get to the airfield, but then another gate is locked at access to hangar and tarmac parking. It may be a private airport now, but best to phone the Castlemaine Council. It would actually be a great airfield if runway condition better.
I did not get to observe the North-South runway, but as I drove away, it did not look like it was operational, as of Dec. 2011.
whow
I have stumbled across this site and fail to understand the comments of some.
No one, but no one expects avgas for nothing. But to be charged more per litre than even Goolwa who I can assure you pay cartage to get the avgas to Goolwa and yet charge less than Aldinga who pay NO CARTAGE AT ALL.
To fly into Aldinga is risky as yes, there are 3 runways in operation at the same time which is totally uncalled for and unless one is familiar with the procedures, it is downright dangerous and totally uncalled for.
The guy from Tassie must have had a fist full of dollars as that is about the only thing that they worship. No money to spend with us, do not waste our time.
I can assure you that I have dealt with customers all my life and for the comments posted by some guy regarding the person who had a mechanical workshop all his life must now be employed by the helpful and nice lady.
Who in their right mind would wish to live near Aldinga aerodrome that now seems to be Basterdized by the sound of continuous buzzing of aircraft in all directions flying over the neighbors homes.
And then there is now a commercial operation operating large aircraft who I believe fly so low with no regard or consideration of the neiboring homes and properties.
Sorry, Aldinga is staffed by rude, arrogant, self opinionated, inconsiderate people who have a total disregard for Australians and are instigating some bad flying practice, and dangerous.
Nope, I stay away from Aldinga. There are friendlier places nearby who are friendlier and have visitors and aviators interests at heart without the aim of fleecing one.
Mount Beauty
Once landed you can walk up to the town centre - great Bakeries etc. and Mount Beauty is a nice town especially on a blue sky day!
close to wineries
I landed here once, took bikes and cycled the wineries, stayed overnight in a B&B
Accom people will pick u up fm airport too.
Strip is short bit of bitumen will gravell extn
where
australia
re: Correct IATA code?
Reply to @tfmorris: removed the IATI code - thanks for the update.
re: CTAF Incorrect
Thank you - I have verified the frequency in the Australian AIP and updated it for the pilot-info page.
YMBD
Top spot. Fuel, coffee,toilets, no landing fees. Only 5 mins flight from spectacular scenery of the mighty Murray River.
Colin
Great spot to visit
Good restaurants, hotels in town. Excellent airport facilities including servicing by Carl at Tuna Aviation. Short taxi trip to town. You will need a valid ASIC as it's a RPT airport. Only 1.5 hrs from Adelaide and great views along the way.
Colin
CHEESE FACTORY RESTAURANT
bloody fantastic burgers and excellent hospitality and a short walk from the airstrip. Will definitely be back.
re: Airstrip extinct
Reply to @HomerT: Thank you for the update.
re: Positioning and access
Reply to @HomerT: thank you very much for the comment. That's a long runway for helicopters -- are you certain that STOL fixed-wing aircraft don't use the strip?
re: Enoggera Airport
Thank you for the update. I wonder if there was once an airport here, since it has an ICAO designator and http://sabc.org.au/knav/airport/YENO.html lists a runway 03/21. I've updated the page.
re: Lake Keepit Soaring Club welcomes visitors
Fixed!
Lake Keepit Soaring Club welcomes visitors
keepitsoaring dot com
Lake Keepit Soaring Club is run by club members so the costs are kept to a minimum. Visitors most welcome!
7 day a week, all year round (fantastic) gliding operations.
Excellent on-site and local accomodation
The terrain around the club is varied and interesting and there are literally dozens of airstrips and other outlanding opportunities around.
There's a good fleet of modern, well maintained aircraft or you're welcome to bring your own glider.
The Marker on 'ourairports' map is incorrectly shown on a dam wall, Lake Keepit airfield is 1km to North East at S 30.891000º, E 150.526000º
re: re: THIS IS NOT ROMSEY
Reply to @david: Yeah, I made some sort of paste error when I saw the subdivision.
re: THIS IS NOT ROMSEY
Reply to @ptomblin: that's the same location I found in the Australian AIP (you just have to make the latitude negative).
re: THIS IS NOT ROMSEY
Reply to @david: My Eurocontrol data gives the lat/long as 37.391667 | 144.738333, but I don't see anything there except a subdivision.
re: THIS IS NOT ROMSEY
Found YRSY in the Australian AIP and corrected to the latitude/longitude listed there.
re: THIS IS NOT ROMSEY
Thanks. Online databases seem to have a tough time with this airport. The first one I consulted (as well as Google Maps) put it in the middle of the ocean. A different source I found gave this location, which at least actually has an airport shown. So
1. Does anyone know the correct lat/lon for Romsey?
2. Does anyone know what airport is shown here? YPEF?
THIS IS NOT ROMSEY
ROMSEY *YRSY is not this airfield. Romsey is about 8 km further north,zoom in north of Monegeeta for the real ROMSEY.
re: Story about midair collision
Reply to @david:
I completed my CPL and ME-IFR out of Bankstown. I then logged over 1000 hours teaching VFR students. The essence is to look outside the cockpit when approaching any airport and particularly an inbound reporting point such as 2RN (radio mast) or Prospect Reservoir at a busy GA training centre. With so much available as pilot aids, GPS and Traffic Warnings, it is too easy to be distracted by what's displayed INSIDE the cockpit while the actual danger is OUTSIDE. Under VFR, the PIC is responsible for separation. 2RN is difficult to see in some conditions but the instructors (one is each plane) know the cues for finding it and need to explain that to the students, all while looking outside the cockpit!
Photo
🔗 Thu, 29 Mar 2012
— @Bill35 at Fortescue - Dave Forrest Aerodrome, Australia
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/3127917?source=wapi&referrer=kh.google.com