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Don't transfer here
Not a fun place to transfer after an overnight international flight. Shift change at customs happens at 6:00, and the customs line did not move for 1/2 hour, as it grew longer and longer. Have to reclear security to transfer from the international terminal to a domestic flight at terminal 3, and construction made things painfully slow there (once we all found a way in).
Choose any other airport, even Atlanta or Chicago.
Good airport
This is a pleasant, modern, and efficient airport. We had to wait a few minutes for a gate (because we'd landed 35 minutes early), but it wasn't nearly as bad as what I've experienced at YYZ or LAX. After landing, I was through immigration and customs much faster than I would be in a Canadian or US airport, and everyone was friendly and efficient. The car ride into the city was much nicer than, say, the urban blight you seen driving in from Newark.
One tip: travel guides say that it's best to order a car or taxi in Bogotá, rather than just getting into one. I don't know if that applies at the airport as well, but it's not expensive (it cost me about $25 for a car and driver from the airport into the Parque 93 district).
re: Airport Information
Thank you - I've added the runway information to the Pilot Info tab.
re: How can I download CSV files?
Reply to @simurqq: There was an error in the script that generates the CSV files, but it is fixed now. Apologies for the problem.
re: Runway closed
Thank you for the information. Does anyone have a source for the airport move? I can't see the new airport in Google sat imagery (probably because it's too new), so I'm looking for some type of confirmation. The Panamanian civil aviation authority web site at http://www.aeronautica.gob.pa/noticia/index.php wasn't helpful.
Can anyone verify?
I can make out what might be a landing strip beside the pond, but it's extremely small -- it wouldn't work for anything but an ultralight, at best.
re: not possible this airport would be international
"International" is a bit of a misleading term. All you need to be an Airport of Entry (AoE) is to have customs services available. In Canada, we have grass strips and even water aerodromes that you could call "international."
re: Does it really exist?
It's in a lot of older databases. Marked as closed, assuming that it went out of service and was built over. If anyone has more information, please let us know.
re: CTAF
Thank you for the update. I've distinguished the two on the pilot-info page now.
re: updated photos and images of lungi international airport
Thanks for your comment. We rely on Google Maps for our satellite imagery, and on FlightStats.com for arrival and departure information, so unfortunately, we're unable to present better information until they make it available.
re: no service category
Thanks - status updated.
re: Hibaldstow Airfield
Reply to @cliffair: that link seems to refer to Hinton-in-the-Hedges airport: http://www.ourairports.com/airports/GB-0073
re: VFR into teterboro
I fly my Warrior into KTEB frequently, but it's always from the north -- from that side, you can drop below NY approach airspace, and it's just a matter of calling up KTEB like any other towered airport. From the south, you might have to negotiate more-complex airspace, or make a big loop around.
When you're leaving, if you're VFR, tower will often let you cut ahead of the long line of bizjets and take an intersection departure.
Gas is expensive, but that's life near NYC. Call your FBO of choice first, and make sure you ask about *all* fees. I was surprised by a new customs fee on my last visit this past summer (since I was coming from Canada), but Atlantic very kindly and quickly refunded it.
Main air force base
This is the main base of the SAAF.
re: Map to Swartkop Airport
Updated - thanks
re: web design
Thanks for the feedback. Any suggestions on how to improve it?
David Megginson, Founder, OurAirports
re: Identifier?
Reply to @ptomblin: I have an old paper copy of the official ICAO "Location Identifiers" doc (ICAO Doc 7910/128) from June 2008. It lists no identifier "KGVQ". The closest ones are "KGUS" (Grisson AFB) and "KGVW" (Kansas City, Richards-Gebaur Airport). I suspect that someone was using "ICAO" informally, as a synonym for "four-letter all-alpha identifier".
The confusion over ICAO identifiers, especially in the US, is the main reason that I went for "GPS code" instead with OurAirports.
re: Identifier?
Reply to @ptomblin: you have to pay for the official list, but here's a copy (re)published by Mexico in 2010: http://www.mexico.icao.int/icaoaspa2010/ECCAIRS/Documentation/Taxonomy/R4CDLocationIndicatorsByState.pdf
re: Keep this Forum to the point.
I think this poster is confused about who wrote what. I am the owner of OurAirports, and have posted nothing about the accident people are discussing
re: Fort Erie Airport
According to the CFS, the western 2,350 ft portion of the runway is still in use. If you zoom in on the satellite view, you'll see a faint "28" painted about a third of the way from the east end of the runway.
re: Identifier?
Reply to @ptomblin: the problem is that the ICAO doesn't recognize all of the KXXX identifiers. For example, Norwood Airport (FAA: OWD) is referred to as "KOWD" in GPS databases, but AFAIK, there is no "KOWD" ICAO code.
re: Incorrect link
Where are you seeing the broken link?
re: Information board
Apologies for any problems. The flight information is provided to OurAirports free by FlightStats, and we include it as a convenience for visitors. The data is quite good for major airports, but sometimes seems to lag a bit for smaller airports, especially outside North America.
re: Closed
Thanks - updated.
re: Wrong Possition
Thank you - I've updated the location and runway information.
re: Wickham airport is closed
Reply to @GlasairSportsman: Thank you. I've updated the airport status. It's always sad when an airport closes.
2012 fees update
It's been four years since I flew into Dulles, so I called Signature (1-703-572-0001) for a fees update for a piston single. They're still extremely reasonable for an FBO at a major airport:
Ramp fee: $30 (waived with minimum 8 gal fuel purchase)
Landing: $10.04
Parking: $20.92/night
Customs: no fee
Staff estimated that a taxi into DC would cost $100, and a compact rental car is $45/day.
re: Aircraft times/arrivals/departures
What kind of listings are you looking for, and in what order?
re: STOL and rotorcraft only
So both STOL, then.
Fees and fuel price
Fees and fuel price for a piston single (2012-06-17):
No landing fee
Ramp fee $20 (waived with fuel purchase)
Parking $10/night (first night waived with fuel purchase)
100LL: $7.17 (changes daily)
Customs does not meet aircraft at the FBO -- she said it's necessary to taxi to "the commercial side".
Fees
For a piston single:
$7 landing fee (waived with minimum 10 gal fuel purchase)
$7 overnight parking
No ramp fee or day parking fee
100LL: $6.56/gal (2012-06-17)
re: anyone flown into here from Canada?
Watertown is no longer listed on the CBP web site as an airport of entry: http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/toolbox/contacts/ports/ny/
Customs may still be willing to drive down from the bridge, but there are nearby official options at Alexandria Bay (89NY) and Syracuse (KSYR).
Customs fees
The customs fee is $25 for a piston single or $50 for a piston twin (with landing fee waived). More information here:
http://flybgm.com/Business/Customs
http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/toolbox/contacts/ports/ny/0981.xml
re: $200 customs ramp fee
Reply to @ptomblin: 8 gallons usable (10 total) in a Warrior is almost double the minimum day VFR reserve even at 75% power and ROP. Personally, I normally land at TEB with about 26 gal usable (28 total), but that's because I'm flying alone and take off from Ottawa with full tanks. When I fly to NYC with my whole family this summer, I'm going to have to keep the tanks a lot lower for W&B, and I can see touching down in TEB with only 10-12 gal usable if it's good VFR. IFR or night VFR is a different story, of course, as is flight over mostly-uninhabited terrain like Northern Quebec -- I like to land with 2 hours in the tanks in those situations.
As you know from your Archer time, another advantage of the Cherokee line is that there's no "both" fuel switch. My rule (which, fortunately, I've never had to invoke) is that if I ever do unexpectedly run one tank dry, I will treat it as an emergency -- something went wrong with my fuel system or my calculations -- and I will use the other tank only to make a precautionary landing at the nearest airport (or on a road or field if there's no airport within 15 minutes). A Cessna's "both" position doesn't give you that kind of warning: when you're dry, you're dry.
Airport closed Saturday 9 June 2012 for "Classic Wings and W
The airport will be closed from noon to 3:00 pm local time, and road access will also be restricted for part of the day. Details here: http://www.rfc.ca/news/216
re: $200 customs ramp fee
Reply to @prattsoplenty: thanks for the tip. When I first started using TEB a few years ago, I ruled out Jet for some reason (high fees? no 100LL? don't remember). I'll take another look. I am happy with Atlantic's quick response, though.
re: $200 customs ramp fee
I sent a note to Atlantic, and their regional manager, Joe Fazio, got back to me within the hour. They will refund the $200 customs handling fee from my last visit, and are working to come up with an arrangement more suitable for small, single-engine aircraft (they don't see very many of them, unfortunately). I recommend that anyone planning to clear customs at TEB call first to confirm the fee structure, but hopefully, this problem will soon disappear. In the meantime, I'll just plan an extra customs stop at Massena or Watertown on my way down.
I do recommend Atlantic @ TEB: aside from this one issue, they've provided excellent service to me and my family over the years on our visits to NYC, and even though their gas is expensive, it doesn't add up to all that much of a difference for, say, 22 gallons in a small plane. As for TEB itself, as long as you can depart VFR, tower will almost always let a small plane cut in ahead of the lineup -- yesterday morning, I barely had time to put on my brakes at the hold-short line before I was cleared for takeoff ahead of several bizjets. An IFR departure will be another story, but that's true of any NYC-area airport, because the clearance has to come from NY Approach (I once spent 25 minutes idling at Republic waiting for my IFR release).
$200 customs ramp fee
Since the customs move to Hangar 1, there is now a $200 ramp fee for customs clearance, even for small private planes. It's not clear whether it's Atlantic charging the fee. Atlantic ramp staff said that someone is working to get the fee reduced or removed for small planes -- it's really designed for bizjets -- and that a lot of people have been caught by surprise and angry about it.
Customs for Atlantic Aviation has moved
!TEB 05/023 TEB SVC CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION OPS RELOCATED FROM
HANGAR 3 TO HANGAR 1
CREATED: 10 May 2012 19:30:00
SOURCE: KISPYFYX
NOTAM'd permanently closed
CNA8 WEF 2012 MAY 15 0401 AMEND PUB: AD PERM CLSD
re: re: IATA code = TDX
Reply to @nicolai: thank you very much for making the correction.
re: Manhattan and Hudson River Corridor Access
Reply to @willymopit: yes, the landing fee from TEB is annoying, and it's especially a pain for me in Canada, since I have to go to the bank and get a U.S. money order to pay it, then put it in an envelope and mail it to them (they won't accept a credit card). I don't mind the $17, but I wish I could just pay it through the FBO while I was there. I also suspect that billing me and processing the money order probably costs them several times the $17 they collect from me.
re: Were's the VOR?
I'd be very grateful for the information about the VOR (latitude, longitude, identifier, name, frequency, etc.) so that we can add it to the database.
re: Positioning and access
Thank you very much for the contribution, Ian. I'm grateful for all the work people are putting in correcting the AU data and keeping it up to date.
Aerial view
The airpark is far further along than you can tell from the Google Maps satellite view. Here's a recent aerial photo:
http://copa8.blogspot.com/2012/01/pontiac-airpark-aerial-view.html
re: length of runway
Thank you - I've added the runway information to the "Pilot info" tab.
re: Shame on you
Zooming in, I can see that this paved stretch clearly has runway markings and numbers (18/36), so I think it's in the correct location.
re: Shame on you
Thank you for the feedback. OurAirports is a community-maintained site, like Wikipedia, so we're always looking for better information. Do you happen to know the correct location for Okara Airport? Or is this one of the situations (common in some other countries) where a stretch of highway is designated as an emergency landing strip?
re: Manhattan and Hudson River Corridor Access
Reply to @willymopit: I've always been treated well at TEB too (I use Atlantic), but I agree about cost of a taxi. There is a bus that stops near the airport and goes to the Port Authority; alternatively, maybe it's possible to take a cab just to the nearest NJ Transit rail station, and get into Manhattan that way. I'll look into it on my next visit.
Closed, or just in receivership?
🔗 Sat, 24 Nov 2012
— @david at Ciudad Real International Airport, Spain
All airlines have ceased flights to this airport, but is it closed to non-airline flights?