Airport comments for North America
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re: My Home Base
The are several important reporting points:
South: Point Roberts
North: Alex Fraser Bridge (on Hwy 91)
East: 99 and the Nickel river (barely south of the hwy 99 and king george hwy interchange), 99 and the serpentine river (west of King george airpark; i'd recommend calling up over the airpark though when inbound), the gas pumps (intersection of ladner trunk and hwy 99)
That said, there are several unusual procedures in place, RH circuits on Rwy 25, and inbound/outbound traffic procedures to avoid interference with Delta Airpark to the East. I highly recommend getting a hold of a CFS and looking at the traffic flow maps in there, for first time visitors CZBB can be very confusing. That said, the southbound dep/arr is pretty straightforward.
South County Airport Pilot's Association
Check out the local Pilot's Association Website http://www.southcountypilots.org/
Includes a couple of webcams.
Great burgers
Less than 100 yards from aircraft parking.
This visit was March 07.
Nicest Folks in the South!
You absolutely must stop in Moultrie if you're in the area. They give every arrival a friendly "welcome to Moultrie," their fuel price is cheaper than anywhere even with full serve, and they gladly give up the crew car for a trip to town for lunch.
Sun n' Fun Spot
This is a decent spot to fly into for Sun n' Fun. It's a bit far away from the Lakeland, but easy to get into and out of so much less hassle. They charged a $4/night parking fee (2008) and a $4.99 service charge for gassing up, on top of the fuel charge.
re: My Home Base
Hi Intheclag,
I'll be flying up from Renton (KRNT) next Saturday (4/19) around noon to land at KZBB.
I don't have a CFS, just the VFR chart. Can you elaborate on the reporting points - tell me which ones to expect and their lat/longs? I plan to fly over Pt Roberts, and will be on Flt Following.
Thanks,
re: Don't depart IFR on a VFR day!
I had exactly the same experience at Republic in spring 2004, right down to sitting on the runway (as instructed by tower) and holding everyone else up. Same lesson -- if you can take a VFR departure out of a NY-area airport, do. It's the controller's error putting you on the runway before your clearance is ready, but why invite trouble in the first place?
Don't depart IFR on a VFR day!
I must have tied up traffic for 30 minutes of more waiting at the entrance for my IFR clearance. I'd taxied out after being told to, but there were 4 or 5 planes waiting behind me and by the time I suddenly realized that I could depart VFR and pick up a clearance later, the clearance had actually come. I felt like a complete dick.
Petition to save Lindsay Airport
Local government is considering whether to keep Lindsay Airport open or sell off the land to developers. Here's the online petition to keep the airport open:
http://lindsay.epetitions.net/
As you can see from the other comments, this is a popular airport with transient pilots.
First landing North of the Arctic Circle
Not much here except a lodge and guide service - which is fine. Just a thrill for my first landing North of the Arctic Circle!
Fees and customs info (March 2008)
I called Signature in late March 2008, and had the following fees quoted for a single-engine piston (PA-28):
$8 landing fee
$18.19/night parking
$28 handling fee, waived with purchase of 7 gal fuel
Customs will meet Canadian planes at the Signature FBO, and there is no extra charge. Their number is (703) 661-7100.
Finally, Signature's radio frequency (for when you're taxiing in) is 131.87 MHz.
Easy to find
This airport was extremely easy to find. Just follow the shoreline until you see Jordan Bay. Then bam, it's at your 12 o'clock (if you're coming from the west).
Nice long strip..
Didn't stay, just did a touch and go.
First Solo out of Trinca!
My first Solo was out of Trinca about 10 years ago. The airport is a little run down, and a bit behind the times these days. I never thought much of those trees or divits in the grass as a student pilot. A bit of a bump was my launch pad for soft field take offs. All the little "Tricks" you learned flying out of Trinca only made you a better pilot. Avoiding tall trees wasn't something that made it tough, it made you FLY! Something a lot of "pavement" pilots forget how to do I think.
Trinca is one of the last grass strips around in NJ. It is a big part of many pilots fond memories. It is a truly enchanting airport. Look past the rough edges, reach back through time. You can still see and hear all the avid aviation enthusiasts sitting around on the old picnic table bench, chatting the warm summer days away. To this day, I can walk around the hangers, look in the office, sit on that bench, and get that same warm feeling of camaraderie we all shared in our never ending love for aviation.
A 7:45PM trip around the pattern in a J3 Cub, watching the sun set on a warm summer night, I can't think of anything more magical! I love this airport and only hope it will be around for a long time to come, to share with my children. Visit if you can!
S.J.M.
Nice, friendly Class D airport
Bloomington has a terrific towered GA airport. There are two FBOs on the field. When we stopped in 2005, we used BMG. Because of thunderstorms along our intended route of flight, we stayed the night at the airport. BMG has a "cabin" at the foot of the control tower that was made available to us for $60 a night. It was a well-appointed modular home with internet access and computer, a full kitchen and laundry room (both stocked with basic supplies), a comfy living room with a television and several movies available on VHS and DVD. Plus, they gave us keys to a courtesy car overnight. As graduates of Indiana University, we used the car to venture into town to visit one of our favorite restaurants that we missed since moving away (there's a great selection of little ethnic restaurants in the area defined by Kirkwood Ave, 4th Street, Dunn, and Grant). Bloomington is a great stop.
Nice stop
Lake Placid was a wonderful stop. The area is beautiful, the FBO personnel are friendly, and the Olympic ski jumps are next to the airport. There is a free Trolley service that runs a loop through town, including the airport. Ask the FBO staff to call the Trolley. We ate lunch at The Cottage on an outdoor deck overlooking Mirror Lake. Great food, wonderful scenery.
re: Where it all began- ED GORSKI- Great GUY
I was hired to work as a flight instructor in April 1972 by Ed Gorski, minutes after we met.
I had graduated from Embry-Riddle and headed to NJ to pursue my aviation career. No jobs were available at all, except a FEW instructor jobs! Ed Gorski was somewhat gruff, but a real nice person. I had 3 other offers for FI positions, and I ended up taking a job at Linden Airport, NJ for a lot less money ($3/hour) than Ed offered ($15/hour), however, more students and more opportunities at LDJ. I stayed at LDJ for 16 months and moved on to a Cessna 421B job at North Philadelphia, which lasted for about 18 months.
Long Story Short, I ended up getting hired at Lincoln Park in early 1975 by a group of individuals as a Flight Instructor. An Eastern Airlines Crowd of pilots, who hired a puppet manager to follow their directives, hired me. Ed had sold the Captain Jack Faes/George Kershaw, Eastern groupof pilots, the airport, in good faith, and they concentrated their collections of Pitts Aircraft throughout 1975. What a racket these guys had. Maybe I was envious, as I was trying to break into a business that had no opportunities available at the time. This crowd took advantage of everything that they could get their hands on.
I left the job in August 1975 as I had seen enough, and one of the Eastern bunch (Jack Faes) needed a job for his son, who had lost his job at Wien Airlines in Alaska, so I was the junior flight instuctor and had to leave.
What a difference from this BUNCH to Ed Gorski. Well, the Captain Jack Faes and Eastern Airlines' crowd eventually overstayed their agreement with Ed, with the hangars filled with their Pitts Special toys. They never paid their local taxes ($75,000) to Lincoln Park Township while they managed the airport, and good old Ed Gorski was contacted for a default of the real estate taxes due. I guess Ed Gorski had to throw the puppet manager Bill out on his ass, and then the Faes Eastern crowd. Then Ed took possession of his beloved airport, and I assume ran it himself for many more years.
God bless Ed Gorski, he was a straight forward honest guy, not like the low lives that had infiltrated Lincoln Park from 1975-1977. I wish Ed was still around. With respect to Eastern Airlines Captain Jack Faes, he kicked me in the ass in August 1975, and then further attempted to trash my aviation career with unfounded bad references, however, I managed a successful career in corporate aviation as a manager/chief pilot from 1979-1998, operating several Falcon 50s, Gulfstream III/IV, Lear 55, Citation VII for over twenty (20) years, all based in New Jersey. I am now a B747-400 Captain for the last ten (10) years.
I'll never forget my conversations with Ed Gorski. A straight an honest man, who always treated me with respect and kindness. I am delighted that Ed took his airport back from that bunch of Eastern Airlines pilots who had abused their stay and stacked the hangars with their toys, and abused the employees!
Wherever you are Ed, I will always remember you fondly. And as far as that Eastern Airline Bunch, they got their due, eventually, in more ways than one!
re: Where it all began- ED GORSKI- Great GUY
I was hired to work as a flight instructor in April 1972 by Ed Gorski, minutes after we met. I had graduated from Embry-Riddle and headed to NJ to pursue my aviation career. Ed Gorski was somewhat gruff, but a real nice person. I had 3 other offers for FI positions, and I ended up taking a job at Linden Airport, NJ for alot less money than Ed offered, however, more students and more opportunities at LDJ. I stayed at LDJ for 16 months and moved on to a Cessna 421B job at North Philadelphia, which lasted for about 18 months.
Long Story Short, I ended up getting hired at Lincoln Park in early 1975 by a group of individuals as a FI. An Eastern Airlines Crowd of pilots, managed by a pupet manager who followed their directives, hired me. Ed had sold the Captain Jack Faes/George Kershaw, Eastern group, the airport, in good faith, and they concentrated their collections of Pitts Aircraft throughout 1975. What a racket these guys had. Maybe I was envious, as I was trying to break into a business that had no opportuinites available, but this crowd took advantage of everything that they could get their hands on. I left the job in August 1975 as I had seen enough, and one of the Eastern bunch needed a job for his son, who had lost his job at Wein , so I was the junior guy and had to leave. What a difference from this BUNCH to Ed Gorski. Well, the Jack Faes (Larry Faes) Eastern Airlines' crowd eventually overstayed their agreement, with the hangars filled with their toys. They never paid their local taxes to Lincoln Park, and good old ed Gorski was contacted. I guess had to throw the manager out on his ass, and then the Faes crowd. Then Ed took posession of his beloved airport. God bless Ed Gorski, he was a straight forward honest guy, not like the low lives that had infiltrated Lincol Park from 1975-1977. I wish Ed was still around. With respect to Captain Jack Faes kick in my ass in August 1975, and then his attempt to trash my career with bad references, I managed a sucessful career in corporate aviation as a manager/chief pilot operating a Falcon 50, Gulfstream III/IV, Lear 55, Citation VII for over twenty (20) years, all based in New Jersey. I am now a B747-400 Captain for the last ten (10) years.
I'll never forget my conversations with Ed Gorski. A straight an honest man, who always treated me with respect and kindness. I am delighted that Ed took his airport back from that bunch of Eastern Airlines pilots who had abused their stay and stacked the hangars with their toys, and abused the employees!
re: New York City's first airport
The first time I flew commercial into New York City I saw this underneath us as we were being vectored around. I didn't notice the historical aircraft, but there were plenty of helicopters.
New York City's first airport
Located in Brooklyn, this was the first municipal airport serving NYC. During World War II, it was Naval Air Station New York. According to Wikipedia, the runways are still usable, and the airport is occasionally reopened for air shows. The NYPD still has a heliport on site, and there is a display of historical aircraft.
Lamberts!
Friendly people, quick shuttle over to Lamberts for a one of a kind dining experience...
Cheap!
Gas is very inexpensive, self serve. Someone has wrapped several 2-3" sections of PVC pipe around the hoses, makes it very easy to maneuver. Nothing there in terms of amenities, but friendly folks!
Friendly folks
Great people, both FBOs were helpful to me when I stopped for a few days. Much less expensive than the International!
nice airport
Good coffee friendly people
Good On Airport Restaurant
Looking at your plane and the runway while eating. Life is good.
Gas station across street
There's a gas station across the street that you can use to refill the tank when you're returning a rental car.
Landing Fee
There is a landing fee of $10 (ten dollars) here. But parking is free and the 100LL is sold at a reasonable rate.
Second runway planned
This airport is running at 8 times planned capacity because of the oil boom. There's a new terminal and new runway planned, among other changes:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/story/2008/03/11/fortmac-airport.html
AIRPORT
I THINK ITS RUN WELL AND SERVES THE PUBLIC WELL.
On the Canada-US border
This airport touches the Canadian border and is also listed in the Canadian CFS (airport directory) using its US identifier. Just past the northwest end of the runway is a north-south road border crossing point with US and Canadian customs.
"MBS" = Midland, Bay City, and Saginaw
This was originally called the Tri Cities Airport, but, unusually, it has taken its FAA and IATA code "MBS" (the first letter of each of the cities) right into its official name.
re: Wrong id
I've changed the GPS id to D38, and the site ident to US-D38. Thanks for spotting that, Paul.
Wrong id
The id on this airport should be "D38", not "KD38".
re: Landing Fee ($8.67)
Les Cedres would be faster (but further) than St. Hubert, and Mascouche would more difficult than both to get into downtown. If you're cabbing, I suppose the St. Hubert landing fee would be justified, but be sure to check fuel prices too!
Ground transportation
A taxi into DC should cost around $55-60. Here's a web site to estimate fares for specific destinations from DC to Dulles (the other way around you have to use Washington Flyer, which may charge differently):
http://citizenatlas.dc.gov/atlasapps/taxifare.aspx
A town car is probably about $10 more, but I haven't checked. The SuperShuttle costs around $27, with lots of extra stops -- it doesn't seem worth it (I remember being stuck on a SuperShuttle at LAX once, as it circled round and round for 15 minutes trying to get enough customers before it left: that's no fun after a long flight).
The cheapest option is take the WMATA 5A express bus from the airport to the L'Enfant or Rosslyn Metro stops. From what I've found online, it's $3.10 for the bus, and around $3 for the Metro. Here's the bus timetable:
http://www.wmata.com/timetables/dc/5a.pdf
And here's the trip planner on the WMATA site:
Great airport
Nice, friendly people. Big runway.
Access severely restricted by ADIZ
This airport is one of the "DC-3", along with Hyde Field [W32] and Hyde Field [W32]. It lies inside the inner Flight Restricted Zone (FRZ) of the Washington DC ADIZ, and access is allowed only to pilots who have been pre-screened and obtained a special Personal Identification Number (PIN). This is in addition to the normal ADIZ procedures. As a result, it won't usually make sense for non-local pilots to try to use this airport.
Access severely restricted by ADIZ
This airport is one of the "DC-3", along with College Park [CGS] and Potomac Airpark [VKX]. It lies inside the inner Flight Restricted Zone (FRZ) of the Washington DC ADIZ, and access is allowed only to pilots who have been pre-screened and obtained a special Personal Identification Number (PIN). This is in addition to the normal ADIZ procedures. As a result, it won't usually make sense for non-local pilots to try to use this airport.
Access severely restricted by ADIZ
This airport is one of the "DC-3", along with Hyde Field [W32] and Potomac Airpark [VKX]. It lies inside the inner Flight Restricted Zone (FRZ) of the Washington DC ADIZ, and access is allowed only to pilots who have been pre-screened and obtained a special Personal Identification Number (PIN). This is in addition to the normal ADIZ procedures. As a result, it won't usually make sense for non-local pilots to try to use this airport.
re: Landing Fee ($8.67)
Lommer: thanks for the comment on YHU -- I haven't been there since they brought in the landing fee. How are Mascouche and Ceders for getting into downtown Montreal compared to St-Hubert? It would be pretty easy to burn more than $8.67 in extra round-trip transportation costs.
My chosen airport
KLUK is where I go to have fun and enjoy myself today. I'm on the Board of the Cincinnati Aviation Heritage Society here and we have a micro museum on the South end of Lunken terminal. It is the repository of the Lunken Family Aviation Collection. Donations are welcome Google us at cahslunken for more information. We need someone to buy the computer program Past Perfect Museum Software for us.
You can join us too. Old timers meet on third Fridays at 10:00 am in the museum and Regular Members meeting will be held on the First Monday of each month at 7PM in the museum beginning March 2008. Come on and join us.
KGSO-An enroute stop
When USAIRWAYS closed the Cincinnati Station in 1997, I was forced to transfer and here's where I went. I liked the people, loved the area and left some good friends here on my way to KCMH where I polished off my career.
CMH-The end of my road
KCMH was where I finished my career with USAIRWAYS in 1999.
My Hometown Airport
I looked up in the sky from here as a young boy and learned how to identify aircraft using GOC and CAP manuals. American Airlines served here through my childhood and finally Lake Central Airlines who hired me in 1963 for a 35 & 1/2 year ride through USAIRWAYS where I retired in 1999.
I thought when LCA hired me that I would get to work in my hometown, but it was not to be. My career was to start at KPMH and end at KCMH. Most of my time was at KCVG.
Baseball Hall of Fame
I'm hoping to bring my daughter to the Baseball Hall of Fame some time in 2008, and K23 looks like the closest airport (ALB is the closest with airline service). If anyone has any suggestions or comments about the airport before then, please leave them here.
Contact info
The phone number for the Esso at Timmins is 705-268-7212 ext. 3157.
Fuel and parking
I called on 18 February 2008, and the Esso was selling 100LL for CAD 1.52/litre + GST. Plug-in posts are available at the visitor parking along the fence.
Interesting aircraft at Sky Manor
The airport's owner is also the US importer for the Beriev 103, a unique Ukrainian twin engine amphibian. It seats six, floats on its hull and its wing roots, and the two engines are mounted on pods aft of the wing. There is usually one of these on the field.
A self-serve fuel pump with credit card reader is available.
Pixelated -- military stuff
I notice that Google has pixelated the satellite view (as of 2008-02-15), probably because Hanscom is a U.S. military base as well as a public airport. Unfortunately, they've pixelated the civilian side as well, so you can't see the FBO, terminal, etc. very well.
I didn't see anything military when I visited, but I certainly heard it -- there were regular bugel calls coming over hidden intercom speakers, which was a bit funny, including (I think) reveille at 7:30 am on Valentine's day. Do soldiers really sleep in that long these days?
Not cheap, but OK service
I parked at Signature for three days during a business trip to the Route 128 corridor, and it wasn't too bad. The airport was friendly, and while gas was expensive (over $6/gallon), I didn't need too much of it. I think parking was $14/night. The FBO wasn't willing to brush snow off my plane for any price when I called -- they said they're not allowed to touch the planes (!!) -- but they were fast to give me a forced-air preheat when I had trouble starting in cold weather for departure on Valentine's day (and the line guy, Jeff, was very friendly). I don't know what, if anything, the preheat cost, because it hasn't shown up on my credit card yet. Excluding that (and the landing fee, which the airport will charge), my total bill was about $160, including 22 gallons of 100LL and three nights' parking. That's about in line with what I'd pay at Teterboro (TEB), which is a similar bizjet-style GA airport for New York City, though much busier.
Red Bull air race 2008
🔗 Wed, 23 Apr 2008
— @david at Windsor International Airport, Canada
From 31 May to 1 June, the Red Bull Air Race is coming to Windsor and Detroit. It will take place along the Detroit River between the two cities, and there will be viewing stands on both the Canadian and U.S. sides of the river.
http://www.redbullairrace.com/